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Choice of Python
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This will be written in Python, at least for the first cut, just for
ease of development -- I think I am at least 2-3 times faster than in
C or C++, and bugs may be less severe. I am open to the idea of
switching to C at some time in the future, but because that is
enormously expensive I want to avoid it until it's clearly necessary.
Python is also a good platform to handle cross-platform portability.
Possible reasons to go to C:
Audience acceptance
If Linus says "I'd use it if it were written in
C" that would be persuasive. I think the good developers we want to
do not consider implementation language as a dominant factor. A few
related but separate questions are important to them: modest
dependencies, easy installation, presence in distributions (or as
packages), active support, etc. A few queries show that Python is
seen as relatively safe and acceptable even by people who don't
actually use it.
Speed
Having scalable designs is much more important.
Secondly, we will do most of the heavy lifting in external
C programs in the first cut, and perhaps move these into native
libraries later. (Subversion people had trouble in relying on GNU
diff on legacy platforms and they had to integrate the code eventually.)
Bindings to other languages
If we have only a Python interpretation then it can be run as a
shell script from emacs or similar tools. It can also be natively
called from Python scripts, which would allow GUI bindings to almost
every toolkit, and it can possibly be called from Java and
.NET/Mono. By the time this is
mature, it's possible that Python code will be able to cross-call
Perl and other languages through Parrot.
There should be enough options there to support a good
infrastructure there of additional tools.
If it was necessary to provide a C API that can perhaps be wrapped around a
Python library.
Reuse of tla code
That may be useful, if there are substantial sections that approach
or meet our goals for both design and implementation (e.g. being
good to use from a library.)
This does not necessarily mean doing the whole thing in C; we could
call out to tla or could wrap particular bits into libraries.
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Erik Bågfors:
However, I think it's very important that a VCS can be wrapped in other
languages so that it can be integrated in IDE's and have tools written
for them.
A library written in c would be simple to wrap in other languages and
therefore could be used from for example monodevelop and friends. I
really believe this is important for a VCS.
I agree; this is a more important argument against Python than speed,
where I think we can be entirely adequate just using smart design.
But there are some partial answers:
We can design bzr to be easily called as an external process -- not
depending on interactive input, having systematically parsed output,
--format=xml output, etc. This is the only mode CVS supports, and
people have built many interesting tools on top of it, and it's still
popular for svn and tla. For things like editor integration this is
often the easiest way.
Secondly, there is a good chance of calling into Python from other
languages. There are projects like Jython, IronPython, Parrot and so
on that may well fix this.
Thirdly, we can present a Python library through a C interface; this
might seem a bit weird but I think it will work fine. Python is
easily embeddable; this might be the best way for Windows IDE
integration.
Finally, if none of these work, then we can always recode in C,
treating Python only as a prototype.
I think working in Python I can develop it at least twice as fast as
in C, particularly in this early phase where the design is still being
worked out. Although all other things being equal it might be nice to
be in pure C, but I don't think it's worth paying that price.
One of the problems with darcs is that it's such a mess wrapping it.
Yes.
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Experiments to date on large trees show that even with little
optimization, bzr is mostly disk-bound, and the CPU time usage is only
a few seconds. That supports the position that Python performance
will be adequate.
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